Sunday, June 27, 2010

Vindication for Real Climate Scientists

Newspapers Retract 'Climategate' Claims, but Damage Still Done is the title of a new article in this week's Newsweek. It is a full vindication for science, and a solid rebuke to anti-science, anti-intellectual climate change deniers. The issue is settled people. Climate change is real.

"A lie can get halfway around the world while the truth is still putting its boots on, as Mark Twain said (or “before the truth gets a chance to put its pants on,” in Winston Churchill’s version), and nowhere has that been more true than in 'climategate.' In that highly orchestrated, manufactured scandal, e-mails hacked from computers at the University of East Anglia’s climate-research group were spread around the Web by activists who deny that human activity is altering the world’s climate in a dangerous way, and spun so as to suggest that the scientists had been lying, cheating, and generally cooking the books. "

"In perhaps the biggest backpedaling, The Sunday Times of London, which led the media pack in charging that IPCC reports were full of egregious (and probably intentional) errors, retracted its central claim—namely, that the IPCC statement that up to 40 percent of the Amazonian rainforest could be vulnerable to climate change was 'unsubstantiated.' The Times also admitted that it had totally twisted the remarks of one forest expert to make it sound as if he agreed that the IPCC had screwed up, when he said no such thing.

The real question now is, will the media give this retraction even 10% of the coverage it gave to the made up scandal in the first place?


T. Paine said...

First off, climate and change are almost redundant. The climate has been changing on this planet since God first saw fit to create it.

That being said, anthropogenic climate change... man-caused climate change, is still very much unproven at the very best for your side of the debate.

Perhaps the reporting of some of East Anglia's excesses was in error; that does not vindicate them for their extensive cherry-picking of supportive data, or falsification of other data.

Hell, even Al Gore's fakeumentory movie has been largely debunked by SCIENTISTS. I find it interesting that most of the fellow-travelers in support of this pseudo science are almost uniformly on the left, even internationally. Perhaps especially internationally. Why is that? And don't tell me because they are the only "smart" ones.

This has become a matter of faith to the left, but it is still unproven in science, as THOUSANDS of credible scientists that are experts in their fields will attest.

Gore's comments to the contrary, the issue is not even close to being settled, and as such, destroying everyone's lives through draconian policies to prevent something which we didn't cause and are powerless to change regardless, is the very definition of foolhardy futility.

Dave Splash said...

The issue is settled to those who base their findings on science and not on the Exxon quarterly report.

The "climate gate" nonsense has been put to rest. It's time to stop the nonsensical debate about a settled issue and start debating solutions to the very real problem.

T. Paine said...

I might even be inclined to take some precautionary measures on the off-chance that there is even the slightest validity to the specious arguments made from the man-made global warming nuts, if their solutions weren't far more drastic and catastrophic than the problem they are trying to cure.

Why is it you think the debate is over when there are thousands of scientists that are just as eminent and prestigious, if not more so then the pro-AGW ones, who proclaim the exact opposite is true?

I was originally very concerned about the global warming phenomena until I started researching and reading everything I could get my hands on regarding it year ago.

Let me tell you, not only is the debate not over, it is looking less and less likely that climate change has anything to with things done by man and is rather nature going through its normal fluctuations as it has for the better part of 4 billion years on this planet.

The only thing that has changed from the left on this issue in the last decade is what they call it. "Global warming" doesn't seem to apply as aptly anymore since actual cooling seems to be occuring in many parts of the world, so the progressive marketing department came up with "climate change" instead.

I'll side with you when I have far more conclusive evidence, sir. As for now, I have my own faith and don't need this Mother Gaia one too.

Dave Splash said...

The evidence is conclusive enough to know that we are way past the point where we need to change and get off of fossil fuels. That part of the debate is, in fact, settled.

T. Paine said...

No Dave; that is your "green faith" showing again, sir.

Dave Splash said...

Science and religion are not mutually exclusive even though many religious zealots seem to feel that way.