Wednesday, November 18, 2009

A Thought On Karl Rove

Senior adviser to former Pres. George W. Bush, Karl Rove, has just announced the title of his forthcoming memoir, Courage and Consequence: My Life as a Conservative in the Fight. I find that to be an odd title for Mr. Rove considering he showed no courage during his time with the White House, and he suffered no consequence for his rampant illegal and unethical actions.


T. Paine said...

Splash, can you give me some examples of Rove's "rampant and unethical actions" sir?

Bet I can give you two or three of Rham Emmanuel's for every one of Karl Rove's and that is only after 10 months of this administration!

Dave Splash said...

You mean aside from outing an undercover CIA agent who specialized in Middle Eastern weapons proliferation, leaving the country while under Congressional subpoena that demanded he testify - under oath - in front of the Congress, illegally firing US Attorneys for political reasons (and then lying about it), lying under oath in federal court regarding the Matt Cooper emails, his involvement with the Don Sigelman scandal in AL, manipulating or stealing numerous elections, and lying with extreme regularity every time he is on TV.

Shit, that took me about 2 minutes. Imagine what I could do with 20.

T. Paine said...

Half of the things you listed are BS, Splash. Valerie Plame was hardly an undercover CIA agent, and it was Richard Armitage that outed her anyway, as per special prosector Fitzgerald's report.

Fitzgerald knew that it was Armitage's fault at the beginning of his investigation but continued on anyway in hopes of getting Rove or Bush and instead ending up nailing Scooter Libby on some BS perjury charge after the fact. Bush was a coward for not pardoning Libby, by the way.

As for the attorney firings, Bush did that and is the only one that could do so. This was also a trumped up charge perpetrated by the left and the left-wing media.

Clinton fired ALL of the attorney's on his watch and hired only the ones back that he thought were supportive of his agenda. And ya know what? THAT was his right as president to do so, just like it was Bush's to do so. NOT Karl Rove at all there...

And that is just off the top of my head. I could probably destroy the rest of your list if I took 20 minutes or so, sir. :)

Dave Splash said...

Not sure, Paine, why you guys on the right continue to disparage Valerie Plame. The CIA itself said she WAS an undercover agent, and I'll take their word over the likes of habitual liars like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.

Libby did lie under oath when he said Tim Russert was the source of the Valerie Plame leak. They did not need Russert to tell them that, since they already knew. It was part of their elaborate cover up. Last I checked, perjury was still a crime (even if its committed by a Republican). The only thing Bush did in his entire eight years that was remotely respectable was to not pardon Libby.

Fitzgerald actually knew that that Cheney committed perjury and was guilty of orchestrating the entire illegal outing. To put it simply, he didn't have the stones to prosecute a sitting VP, so he went for his #1 man, Libby.

Armitage was supposedly one source on the info about Plame (but wait, if Plame wasn't a CIA agent as you claim, then what was he the source of? right wing logic fails again) if you trust a conservative hack like the late Robert Novak.

The US Attny firings was in no way the same as with Clinton. Rove and Alberto Gonzalez lied hundreds of times about it(most of those were Gonzo, but still). They lied about the reasons and they lied about their performance reviews. The attorneys fired refused to file bogus voter corruption cases against Democrats right before an election, and were deemed disloyal to Bush. That, sir, is fact.